will they go after the networks of the banks and the systems and the pieces that are going to hurt our economy or our power grids, all those things that are actually out there in the civilian sector. we feel like national guardsmen who work in these sectors, reservists in general will have sometimes the first look and ability to see those things, identify them, fix them and go in and clean them up. i think the challenges that we're going through right now is that we think it's important that whatever it is that we build in the reserves and national guard is we feel that it's important that it mirror the title x capability, the same standards and training that general clarke and general ingram have talked about before so that we are integral and replaceable for pieces of the federal title x mission domain. and so a lot of ongoing discussion with how we build that and how the national guard can contribute to it. turn it over to bill and sid. >> thanks, joe. picking up on that, right now we have army national guard soldiers that are working as soldiers at nsa and have been for the last ten years,